XenForo mastered the forum software. Now is time to go beyond with a road map.

Lisa

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Roadmaps can be great and save your users from spending unnecessary money in development of add-ons. Roadmaps are hard to make granted but in software development you all ready have an internal roadmap else development would become hard. A roadmap can be as simple as 2019: we will bring feature a, b, c, d and z. But what you’ll see most with forum companies that there more afraid of competition getting the impression what you are doing. For me its like they are developing that is better then sliced bread, that might have been true 10 years ago but with Social Media these days there just a a drop in an ocean.
I didn't say I didn't understand roadmaps and the reasoning behind them, just people's obsessions with them :ROFLMAO:
 

we_are_borg

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I didn't say I didn't understand roadmaps and the reasoning behind them, just people's obsessions with them :ROFLMAO:
The obsession is that people can start planning more and more, when they have access to a roadmap.
 

Andro

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Upcoming XF 2.1.3 seem to be a big update as well with a quite a lot changes. This year XF has been releasing lesser number of updates but with many fixes at one go.

I don't see them going near 25 releases with third point releases for 2.1 or any future version (only unless upcoming versions become flop, like happened with vB 5). Before XF 2.1.10 (or even quicker 2.1.5:D) surely 2.2 will make its way.
 

Tracy Perry

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Just say nothing at all or be vague as you can be, so God forbid someone may build up some expectations based on specific things.
Look at how nuts folks went when XenForo 2.0 was released. The developers plainly stated that it was going to be targeted at feature parity, but so many of the admins started on about it "should" have new features (which there were a few that were not in XF 1.x). Then they got their panties in a twist when 2.0 didn't have a lot of new features to it. Guess they had to much wax in their ears and TP over their eyes to understand what the developers of the script stated clearly.
 

MagicalAzareal

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I didn't say I didn't understand roadmaps and the reasoning behind them, just people's obsessions with them :ROFLMAO:
We love our crystal balls, both developers and admins.
Look at how nuts folks went when XenForo 2.0 was released. The developers plainly stated that it was going to be targeted at feature parity, but so many of the admins started on about it "should" have new features (which there were a few that were not in XF 1.x). Then they got their panties in a twist when 2.0 didn't have a lot of new features to it. Guess they had to much wax in their ears and TP over their eyes to understand what the developers of the script stated clearly.
Well, it did kinda break every plugin and theme, just so mods can ban users.
 

Chris D

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You’re entitled to your opinion of course but I’m getting rather frustrated that almost every single one of your posts appears to be some presumption about our software that is profoundly wrong.

I’m not sure if you’re just making assumptions, or being deliberately facetious or if we’ve done something specific to you that you don’t like but might I suggest you contact us and discuss it further instead of essentially making things up to make us sound bad.
 

Tracy Perry

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Well, it did kinda break every plugin and theme, just so mods can ban users.
Again, that fact *(breaking styles and 1.x version add-ons) was clearly stated for those that can comprehend the English language - and even most that English is a 2nd or 3rd language for them.

Hell, the IPS rewrite to 4.0 did the same thing....
 

haqzore

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Upgrades often break addons. Nothing new or special with that.

In my opinion, this is more reason to go with a more robust 1st party system like IPS. The updates are all inclusive.

Alao, even if you don't want Commerce or Pages today, who knows what your community will mature into next year.
 

SaN-DeeP

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Being a little long time customer in forums Industry..
Unsure about respected palhanow Sir.

I am still ASSOCIATED with VBULLETIN.. though if they lack features.. /support etc. etc.

SECURITY BEING VITAL, WHERE VBULLETIN.ORG ADMINS/MODS still assist to trust..
And Truly appreciate them for same..

(Unsure we have same freedom on xenforo) ??
But, If we have time to spend to change enough on our domains to other software.. we have XENFORO and few alternatives..

TILL THEN we are completely satisfied with VBULLETIN support..
not on .com but alteast on .org

I am somehow little dissatisfied with accounts/billing thing.. these days ..
from vbulletin.com


But will change to xenforo till my support truly dies..
It means lots of forums / -sites..

Still a VB FAN.. not offending anyone around.
LAST to best vbulletin is still good for us..
 

SaN-DeeP

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We tested almost most of top 10 forum software(s) on laucnhing/existing topics..

Xenforo sounds good enough for features we missed since vb 3.x
But we have time to wait / request..
 

Haltech

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Personally, I’ll stick with WordPress to drive my frontpage and use XF for the forum portion. You can find WP devs at a drop of a hat on fiver or Upwork that can easily connect your user table from both WP and XF.

With the ever changing landscape of SEO, Google has shifted to quality content. Forums simply do not compete in SEO against Wordpress with the same type of success they used to. WP offers the ability to target keywords better by using meta more effectively. You will also find higher quality content indexed on WP sites than forums nowadays.

The forum only days are kind of gone for most site owners. You are going to have to compete harder for traffic which will require better written content for the main page. Forum topics for the most part contain thin content when you consider the length of most replies.

It’s very competitive out there as a site owner. You have to learn by your mistakes that placing all of your eggs in one basket for traffic is a bad thing. Example, is all of your traffic coming from Google? Do you have good sources outside google organic traffic? Diversify is the best advice I can give.

Using a mixed stack of technology is the only way you can successfully compete with other sites (forum/web/marketing stacks)

I think IPB sucks and always have. I’ve been using VB since late 90s and supported XF from day one. I don’t have any issues with the software or features. I’m pretty sure XF knows it’s hard to compete against a CMS.

I used to have 100s of users who hung out on the forums I run all day long to kill the boredom at work. Things are changing and you just need to adapt and understand the shifts you need to make to pivot, that’s all.
 

SaN-DeeP

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Personally, I’ll stick with WordPress to drive my frontpage and use XF for the forum portion. You can find WP devs at a drop of a hat on fiver or Upwork that can easily connect your user table from both WP and XF.
Wordpress can never MATCH WITH ANYTHING, unless you have ............... security ...
and/or
.......
 

BigIG

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Well, I have to confess that I also wondered if it might be a typo. I mean, this is a conversation that's been had many times, really, and most of us have accepted that 2.0, which was arguably their biggest milestone since 1.2, was mainly about making things better for developers.
This has not been our experience.
 

BigIG

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I had a much longer post but dumped it. We have raised issues and they are ignored.

Xf need a chirpy young customer service person to get the doco and support responses up to scratch.

Developers doing customer support is not often a good thing.
 

mysiteguy

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I had a much longer post but dumped it. We have raised issues and they are ignored.

Xf need a chirpy young customer service person to get the doco and support responses up to scratch.

Developers doing customer support is not often a good thing.
Not sure what the age of someone has to do with providing support?
 

Anton Chigurh

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It's just an example. Grumpy and old vs young and chipper.

Don't get caught up on it.
Broad brushing. Ageism bigotry. Appeal to stereotype.

Young or old, people can be either grumpy or "chipper" depending on the circumstances.
 

sanction9

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I had a much longer post but dumped it. We have raised issues and they are ignored.

Xf need a chirpy young customer service person to get the doco and support responses up to scratch.

Developers doing customer support is not often a good thing.
Well, you quoted me and what you quoted didn't have anything to do with support or customer service, so I'll still say, "Okay...." :)
 
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