Director Development at Invision Community
- Apr 28, 2005
It’s a double edged sword. I would also say that 99.9% of our customers would never read it.I'd argue it's as easy as pie to publish a road map but hard as hell to deliver on it and probably suicide from a business point of view.
I don't want road maps I want stuff that makes my forums work the way I want them to work.
Being from the country who drinks by far the most tea in the world, if you just would have had a roadmap about this, I could have given you some tips about tea and how to make it properly. My home city literally produces tea and when it comes to tea, we know all about it.We are innovating many things. Just last week we changed up completely our office tea bag and biscuit storage system which culminated in a 4% increase in tea making speed. And if you’re not impressed by that, then I don’t know what to tell you.
Since the thread got derailed, we might as well talk about food. Turkish coffee is great, but you can't drink it 6-10 times a day like tea. What meal did you have if I may ask?In my view you just can't beat a Turkish coffee and by coincidence I had one yesterday after the best Turkish meal I've had in years
I shared a mixed mezes to start; Halloumi, Falafel & Hummus, Calamari & Tartar Sauce, Sigara Boregi, Mititi Kofte & Spicy Sausage served with Turkish Bread. My main meal consisted of Grilled Salmon, Rice and Salad, and I had Baklava with Pistachio Ice cream to finish.What meal did you have if I may ask?
Well, I have to confess that I also wondered if it might be a typo. I mean, this is a conversation that's been had many times, really, and most of us have accepted that 2.0, which was arguably their biggest milestone since 1.2, was mainly about making things better for developers. And there were also some fairly substantial updates with 2.0: maybe not as substantial as the 1.2 additions in some people's opinion, but I'd say all of that together shows that they weren't exactly being lazy. Personally, I'm going to give them until at least the end of the year before I make some kind of summary judgement on just how well I think XF2 turned out for us. By the end of November, it will have been two years - hard to believe! - and I would think that they'd be revealing some juicy details by that point. I hope.I think XF is coasting since version 1.2.
Oh yeah, and then there would be the occasional angry, "I only bought the software because I read x was about to be added! Can I get a refund?"I can't speak for Xenforo, but it's really hard to provide a road map.
We definitely have one internally, and things move around all the time. We've had stuff on the 4.5 roadmap moved to 5, and stuff on 5 moved to 4.5. Things are are OMG MUST HAVES eventually become "meh" so they get removed or pushed back. Sometimes a good idea turns into a bit of a coding nightmare and is pushed back.
Releasing a public roadmap would probably just cause angst when things are taken off or pushed back.
"But I was waiting for feature X and now it's not going to happen?"
Roadmaps can be great and save your users from spending unnecessary money in development of add-ons. Roadmaps are hard to make granted but in software development you all ready have an internal roadmap else development would become hard. A roadmap can be as simple as 2019: we will bring feature a, b, c, d and z. But what you’ll see most with forum companies that there more afraid of competition getting the impression what you are doing. For me its like they are developing that is better then sliced bread, that might have been true 10 years ago but with Social Media these days there just a a drop in an ocean.I've honestly never understood the obsession with wanting roadmaps.