Why people go with XenForo instead of IPS?

sanction9

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The latest activity displays all kind of stuff like who liked what post, who posted a new profile post, etc.
Obviously it should be a setting for admins to decide what kind of content they want in their streams. You could disable all and just have newest posts.

But for example this site has articles and showcase and resources. When someone adds a new item to those, how does that get noticed?
So it would be nice if they would be included. There are tons of other addons which would benefit from it. Of course the stream must be minimalistic as possible, for exampe with fake prefixes (or sth. similar) to give you hint what kind of content is in the stream line.

Most people are narrowly focused on threads and posts is true. But the system pushes them to that because all the other stuff is just clutter and useless. Wastes too much time.

Imagine this:

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and imagine the prefixes would give you a hint about the content type like "image, post, attachments, resource etc.".

As you see this addon also uses tabs, which again is just clutter.
But again, you're not really proposing how you'd improve it. I can agree that having options as to what gets displayed would not be a bad thing, but how you'd present it in an improved manner is another thing. I offered one possible solution above, but if you have a problem clicking tabs, then you probably also wouldn't enjoy clicking to expand a bunch of tree menus either. Which brings me back to square one. People are complaining about the readability of the current activity page, but I'm not seeing any better solutions being proposed to improve it. Perhaps just a clear separation of all activity by date would be a minor improvement, but other than that I'm not sure how you'd better present it.

Also, judging by your comment that the current system "pushes" them to it, you seem to think that most people, if given the choice, would end up preferring to have all their content mushed together on one page, and I'm not really sure that would be the case. I feel fairly confident that you would then have a lot of users asking how they could separate content to focus on what's most important to them. I suppose you could add filters to the page, which would be kind of cool, but I'm not sure that would be any "easier" than just clicking a tab....
 

Doug Heffernan

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I'm a long time IPS software user, I'm very satisfied with how it works and the choice of 3rd party apps/plugins is quite big.

But yet I see a lot of forums going with XenForo, I mean even the huge ones like AVForums and many other.

I fail to see what is it so special about XenForo. I mean really. I ask out of sheer curiosity, not here to stirr any trouble. What is it that I don't take into account when looking at XenForo? Where does Xen shine where IPS fails?

I would not say a lot of forums go with Xenforo. Ipb is being used on way much more forums that Xenforo.

The thing is the xf created quite a stir when it was first released and with the lawsuit. Hence imo it attracted quite some attention. But now, it is yesterday news. It can not match Ipb which is much more superior. I have seen quite a lot people that leave Xf for Ipb.
 

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I would not say a lot of forums go with Xenforo. Ipb is being used on way much more forums that Xenforo.

The thing is the xf created quite a stir when it was first released and with the lawsuit. Hence imo it attracted quite some attention. But now, it is yesterday news. It can not match Ipb which is much more superior. I have seen quite a lot people that leave Xf for Ipb.
And I've seen a lot of people migrate to XF from IPB and other software. This is another case of what "feels" like a truth to someone, from within their own little bubble. And show me a chart that shows more people adopting IPB this past year than XF and I can probably show you another showing the opposite. Refer to Matt M's post above....
 

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And I've seen a lot of people migrate to XF from IPB and other software. This is another case of what "feels" like a truth to someone, from within their own little bubble. And show me a chart that shows more people adopting IPB this past year than XF and I can probably show you another showing the opposite. Refer to Matt M's post above....

The way that the OP had formulated his question, it looked like, at least to me, as if everyone is using xf and no one is using Ipb. Hence my reply.

Anyways, if you would bother to do a little searching, you will see that the number of forums being run on Ipb far surpass those running on xf. And that is not a matter of opinion, but a fact.
 

sanction9

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The way that the OP had formulated his question, it looked like, at least to me, asif everyone is using xf and no one is using Ipb. Hence my reply.

Anyways, if you bother to do a little searching you will see that th enumber of forums being run on Ipb far surpass those running on xf. And that is not a matter of opinion, but a fact.
Yeah, maybe a little to do with the fact they've been around like a decade longer...?
 

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The way that the OP had formulated his question, it looked like, at least to me, as if everyone is using xf and no one is using Ipb. Hence my reply.

Anyways, if you would bother to do a little searching, you will see that the number of forums being run on Ipb far surpass those running on xf. And that is not a matter of opinion, but a fact.

I'd love to see this fact :). So far the only tracker I know of is Digital Point's which has always shown XF with quite the lead (probably missing a ton of things to consider but so far it's the only comparison I know of).


You seem rather confident, could you elaborate on how you came to this conclusion? OP simply said it seems a lot of users are going with XF, not all forums and even says he's an IPS user himself.
 

Doug Heffernan

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Yeah, maybe a little to do with the fact they've been around like a decade longer...?

I do not think so. It has to do with the quailty of the product.

vB has been around for a lot of time as well, and now it is a ghost town. So longivety has nothing to do with it.
 

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I do not think so. It has to do with the quailty of the product.

vB has been around for a lot of time as well, and now it is a ghost town. So longivety has nothing to do with it.
Well, if I have to tell you that that's also supposition on your part, then I don't really see the point of continuing with this conversation. But I'm glad you really like using IPB. :tup:
 

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There's some nice looking websites there. Is it my connection or are several of those sites on their forums and thread pages hanging for some microseconds before loading the rest of the page? It seems to load 'shocky' instead of smooth on first page load. Is that common for IPS?

More than microseconds. 3 of the first 6 I clicked had pauses 1-3 seconds.
 

mysiteguy

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I would not say a lot of forums go with Xenforo. Ipb is being used on way much more forums that Xenforo.

You must be looking at market share charts no one else has seen. Every site software survey I've seen shows IPB is a 4th to 5th place to XF, VB, phpBB and even SMF share. (not in that order). Can you show us anything to support this assertion of yours?
 

Joeychgo

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I would not say a lot of forums go with Xenforo. Ipb is being used on way much more forums that Xenforo.

To be honest, out of the literally hundreds of forums I have visited in recent memory, only 1 I can remember is IPB. (linustechtips.com)

Can you show us anything to support this assertion of yours?

I would love to see this also...
 

TheChiro

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only 1 I can remember is IPB
2 for me, one being one of the ones I acquired part ownership of, the other has been a complete desolate of a site for about 6 years now yet they are still paying for the hosting (I think the last post was early January this year). Not a single other site I visit is ran with IPB and less and less are vB these days. Mostly XF and one of them being a heavily modified SMF board.

Would be interesting to see actual facts backing up claims in this thread. Isn't there a thread somewhere around here showing the actual marketshare for all these boards based around cookies (digitalpoint)?
 

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2 for me, one being one of the ones I acquired part ownership of, the other has been a complete desolate of a site for about 6 years now yet they are still paying for the hosting (I think the last post was early January this year). Not a single other site I visit is ran with IPB and less and less are vB these days. Mostly XF and one of them being a heavily modified SMF board.

Would be interesting to see actual facts backing up claims in this thread. Isn't there a thread somewhere around here showing the actual marketshare for all these boards based around cookies (digitalpoint)?
Linked in my post a above.

 

Panupat

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That's some nice balance looking pie chart.

Never heard of Burning Board (or I had and forgot) gotta look that up.
 

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From what I can tell, Burning Board is significantly more popular in Germany and other European countries than it is in the US or UK.

Either way, where does the chart come from?
 

haqzore

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What about SMF? It has a clean design and easy to use.
Lots of SMF fans on TAZ, but they represent a totally different subset of community software (free) so don't really fit in this conversation.

It'd be more appropriate to start a separate thread comparing SMF to XYZ that comparing it to XF/IPS
 
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