*Warning: Disturbing/NSFW* Conflicted, upsetting. Maybe it's someone else, but I don't think so.

haqzore

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My motto: If you got nothing to hide, then, there's nothing to worry about. If you've got something to hide, then you should be worried. :)
This is the wrong way to look at it.

"Arguing that you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is like arguing that you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say." -Snowden


Saying "I have nothing to hide" also gives up the ability to choose WHAT is hidden. Nothing to hide is = to nothing can or will be hidden.


Everybody poops, but we still close the bathroom door.
Or more closely related to current context, do you masturbate in public?


"Nothing to hide", right?
 
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Fillip H.

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Russ He does not have an active role in the company any more. He's still on the paperwork, though.

As for Filip... if they lived together...
For a period of less than one year. I moved out as soon as I could after we were released on bail.
 
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Tracy Perry

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there's nothing to worry about. If you've got something to hide, then you should be worried
Would be nice if this was true... but in reality it's not. People regularly go to jail over something that they were accused of but didn't have the resources (deep pockets) to defend against.
 

Anton Chigurh

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Snowden said:
"Arguing that you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is like arguing that you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say."
Classic straw man... No one's ever said they don't care about privacy, in this thread or anywhere else. The CONTEXT was, we know governments all over the world snoop on the web, and if we have nothing to hide then there's nothing to fear from it. It's happening, it's a fact, it's part of life on the web and always was.

Additionally, if you think for one second there's truly any privacy on the web, I have some oceanfront property in Arizona for sale.
 

haqzore

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The CONTEXT was, we know governments all over the world snoop on the web, and if we have nothing to hide then there's nothing to fear from it.
Don't want to divert the thread, but a quick Google can show you why this is an incorrect and dangerous way to see it. You don't know what you need to hide, because you aren't in control of what's done with it.

Easy example: net neutrality.

Don't need to hide your browsing, right? Surprise, your ISP just decided all traffic dealing with forums, whether the niche you admin or not, is restricted and can only be accessed for 1 hour/day. And during thay hour, it costs you quadruple the normal rate.

It's just not as far of a stretch as we might think.
 

Anton Chigurh

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Don't want to divert the thread, but a quick Google can show you why this is an incorrect and dangerous way to see it. You don't know what you need to hide, because you aren't in control of what's done with it.

Easy example: net neutrality.

Don't need to hide your browsing, right? Surprise, your ISP just decided all traffic dealing with forums, whether the niche you admin or not, is restricted and can only be accessed for 1 hour/day. And during thay hour, it costs you quadruple the normal rate.

It's just not as far of a stretch as we might think.
:yawn.

SO far off the context it's not even interesting or relevant.

Akhil: How many things are there to fear?
Krenn: I don't know, that's what scares me.

"Live your life as if you are watched. -- Klingon Proverb.
 

Paul M

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This seems to be wandering off topic somewhat, can we get back towards the subject please.
 

Mouth

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I've been reading all the posts here. I do understand different countries have different laws. I also understand that, for me, I can't knowingly do business with a developer who crosses the line into illegal activities, whether it's financial, moral, etc in his own country.

I'll let the rest of you do what you want, one way or another. I just think it's sad that such a talented developer is no longer on my radar due to his personal choices.
This! After having read the thread, I think this summarises the content well and also reflects my opinion.
 

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So first of all, thanks for the mods for keeping this open and people keeping this open.
Personally I have no dogs in this fight as I have no personal or business relationships with anyone involved, merely as a future prospective customer of forum software.

On the topic of porn... only Filip and the people involved know if there was more than hentai on his computer or not. In the case of his business partner, there is very little doubt about what it was what was found on his computer. He does not deny having child pornography, he denies filming or ever touching a child.

As for Filip... if they lived together... did he really not know his business partner was not into kiddie porn? And if it was for such a long time, why did he not do anything about it? Or is... "I did not know he was into that sort of thing" the excuse?

Here are the undeniable facts for their customers and FUTURE customers.... YOUR INFORMATION WILL BE SHARED WITH THE GOVERNMENT!
Your past information was shared with the government. It is not out of the question that someone may look into customers.

The one thing with pornography distribution, or so I'm told by my LEO sources is that one knows another... much like we communicate on message boards... even if they are 100% innocent... you are taking on unnecessary risk.

Furthermore, are you ready to defend your association with DB with your forum users? Are you ready to disclose that your forum information was on a seized computer and subject to future checks?

The other thing is... besides the customer information, IF there were FTP passwords, etc... were they encrypted?

We can also turn this over to TAZ.... did DB have access to TAZ data which potentially included our (user) information?
Finally somebody w/ some sense. I've been ranting on Iain Kidd...becaus he is undeniably guilty. I have not spoken bad once about Filip because I consider the possibility that he may be a victim here. I don't know, but its possible.

Iain Kidd had 13 years worth of child porn saved on his computer. Actual child pornography, not hentai. If you are living with this guy, and also his business partner...when the police seize your computers as well, they are going to do everything possible to charge you with something. In the case of Filip, perhaps it was the Hentai...I doubt the police would have raided his house just for Hentai...it seems like Filip may have just been in the wrong place at the wrong time.

But Iain Kidd. He's been a POS in the MMA community for a long time. Going out of his way to write propoganda, and try and end athletes careers from the cowardly safety of his own computer. I'm not talking about Jon Jones either, I'm talking about 100's of mid level fighters who have trained very hard to achieve their dreams...just for this scumbag to **** all over them, their families, and fans. Iain Kidd is scum.
 

MMA-San

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Russ He does not have an active role in the company any more. He's still on the paperwork, though.


For a period of less than one year. I moved out as soon as I could after we were released on bail.
There you have it. Iain Kidd is a sicko,

Fillip, I hope you can purge that man from your life, and your company. I'm sorry you got caught up in his sick madness. Unfortunately, his terrible aura will haunt you for the rest of your life due to these charges. I truly hope that one day the government cleans your record. Good luck to you in your future endeavers.
 

Kintaro

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He absolutely 100% had graphic penetrative child hentai (not just “hentai”) in the best case scenario and he had pictures of actual children in the worst case. Stop skirting that fact by saying he “just had hentai”. Whatever other facts are unknown, that fact is 100% undeniable or there would have been no crime committed.
I'm not endorsing child pornography, what I am saying is that the art form they have is very, very... very loose. Artists there assume that the typical Chinese, Japanese, or Asian is very young-looking. You can't assume that a 24-year-old is a 12-year-old, and vice versa.
This, and until proven guilty I believe Fillip H. 100%
 

fixer

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until proven guilty
They have already been proven guilty

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

No amount of fanboi , or sorrow can undo what's been done, Decisions were made and they come with consequences, own up to it take the kicks, learn from it and move on. Do not look for vindication all that is doing is further proving lack of character.
 

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This, and until proven guilty I believe Fillip H. 100%
They have already been proven guilty

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

No amount of fanboi , or sorrow can undo what's been done, Decisions were made and they come with consequences, own up to it take the kicks, learn from it and move on. Do not look for vindication all that is doing is further proving lack of character.
Precisely what I was going to say...

Evidence was found, enough for them to press the matter. Filip and partner plead guilty. Clear as day.
 

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Decisions were made and they come with consequences, own up to it take the kicks, learn from it and move on. Do not look for vindication all that is doing is further proving lack of character.
Doesn't sound like Fillip H. is trying to look for excuses or vindication. He's owned up to what he did.
 

fixer

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Doesn't sound like Fillip H. is trying to look for excuses or vindication. He's owned up to what he did.
Negative, nowhere does any of the court documents say anything about Hentai nor did he ever try to use that as any sort of defense.

He is trying to use that among us as his peers as an out, an excuse of ignorance, it is 100% a vindication ploy and if you can not see that yourself then me pointing it out isn't going to aid in assimilation.
 
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southernlady

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He is trying to use that among us as his peers as an out, an excuse of ignorance, it is 100% a vindication ploy and if you can not see that yourself then me pointing it out isn't going to be any sort of apparition.
His quote.
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse, and this is why I opted not to fight this in the courts.
He pleaded at a minimum, no contest or at worse guilty and has accepted that. I don't see that as trying to vindicate himself.

He admits he was wrong under the law. The vast majority of this thread has been beating a dead horse. If someone decides to deal or not deal with his company after this is entirely up to them.

Exam your own life. Has it been spotless? Have you done things that were less than moral even if legal. I'm not sure any of us can claim to be perfect.
 

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I own up to the things I've done wrong always have and always will and I paid the consequences, learned from them and have championed others not to make the same mistakes.

This is different ...."I'm Sorry" don't cut it when you harm children... all offenders should be castrated.

Matthew 18:6 King James Version (KJV)
6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
 

southernlady

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Matthew 18:35 KJV
35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

I can quote pieces of the Bible as well.
 

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I will not debate with you, You are siding with a Convicted Pedophile. That's all that needs to be said.
 
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