- Jun 8, 2013
In other words, vB5 will always be a ****ty product unless a major rewrite happened?
In their utter stupidity, they put the people *with* the knowhow, *the* most qualified (and loyal) forum developers, in a position where they felt they had to leave the company. I've heard a number of times that the most valuable asset a company has is its staff. If that has any truth to it, then when most of the original dev team left, the asset worth of vBSI plummeted to virtually zero.Yup. But not just a major rewrite, they need people with the know-how to do it properly.
What is missing out of that discussion is how someone CAN add additional functionality to vBulletin 5 and it sounds like it isn't possible at all (except in the Jira), which isn't the case. So the real question to be answered is, how can functionality be added to vBulletin 5 and exactly why it is better than a hook/ plug-in system and does it offer the same or more abilities as the old plug-in/ product system of vB3-4? If that question can't be answered satisfactorily, then there is a real issue.
Sad thing is, everyone will be waiting forever for that answer.
( vb3 help had much more infomarmations, e.g. how to use the datamanager http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/data_manager_programming )
Came here to say the same thing. I knew for sure we had docs back then because I was a private beta tester/vB.org admin when 3.5 was begin developed. We wrote the bulk of the documentation (with a lot of help from the developers of course).
We had a bunch of threads related to writing plug-ins for vB 3.5 a long with examples of the best way to port modifications to the plug-in system. People like Kirby even went as far as writing helper applications to make the process easier and to work around limitations. The devs also requested that we suggest good places to put hooks in the code (there was a huge thread at vB.org and lots of hook locations were added).
I don't think vB5 is completely doomed. It takes time for the userbase to adjust to changes. Similarly how you would change a theme on a forum, your community hates the feeling of change.
vB5 needs time to improve. If you keep an eye at the dev releases, they are fairly substantial and fast. That being said, they need to release faster, or else they'll lose their entire base.
vB4 was really crappy at first, but now it has become a very solid platform, with a massive mod community around it. vB5 is missing this and until all the developers come around, and start building for vB5, vB5 will feel empty.
I bought a vB5 license, but have been patiently waiting. I mainly use it to develop plugins so that when vB5 does become viable, vBSocial will have something to offer. All my sites are still running on vB4. I even downgraded my vB5 site to vB4 because it truly could not do what vB4 can do right now. SEO wise, it lacked..big time. This was around release vBulletin 5.01
Nah, it was meant as a joke.I don't get it.