- Feb 20, 2007
Okay, I've been informed. I was not aware of that.That may be true, but Google has to authorize the ability to do this on an account-level way. I am not knocking your response, but believe me when I say this - they did partner with each other. Google has a VC section of their company, so essentially, they partner or invest in new, emerging companies. I read something like this a few years ago stating that Tapatalk is part of the google program. And yes, they've met each other. Google and Tapatalk was in the same room, I would know because I was there. You all already know which event that is. ForumCon. Viglink even allows their ad service to be on Tapatalk. On top of this, it's no accident that Panjo got acquired by Tapatalk, it's because they met each other already. I met the founder of both companies. I met Oliver. So, you really didn't need to dispute this.
Funny thing though, I met with a Fortune ten company at a major convention. I had their senior brand manager's cell phone number. I met with them at their world headquarters more than once, they paid for it including a first class fIight and 5 star hotel. I've been on one of their private jets. All that, and a dollar will buy a cup of coffee. What mattered was whether I was an ongoing long term partner. I don't see any Google Partner tag currently on Tapatalk, only Panjo and Zetaboards. Maybe TT doesn't care to put it up there, maybe its no longer ongoing, I don't know.
Good for you if that's what you've had!I know that, that's actually what I was saying. And I know it's for their benefit, but if you think broadly, and positively - it benefits you too. Because whether you realize this or not, users are still interacting with your site.
I tend to be a skeptic, and my thinking positively about Tapatalk requires having had a positive experience. Along the way Tapatalk has taken steps to alienate forum owners (and users):
- Pulling a paid app from the Google Play store, forcing users to buy another Tapatalk app to disable ads.
- Inserting their signature in all posts made by their users, to try to divert more users from accessing forum platform directly and moving onto their platform.
- Nickled and dimed smaller forums for a long time by not letting advertising money accumulate if it didn't meet a minimum monthly threshold (reputable revenue partners like major ad networks roll it over until it meets a payment threshold),
- They've had a history of poor support, often ignoring forum owner complaints on their support forums and not answering them, or removing them.
- Popping up notices to mobile users asking them to use Tapatalk, even when it was turned off in settings (I had to edit their PHP files to stop this bad behavior).
- Putting up an API spec in the public, then going after companies who used it to make Tapatalk like products. Then once this started happening, no longer keeping the publicly accessible API spec up to date.
- And most recently, they gave forum owners on acquired platforms the big FU by not allowing them to export their board to go elsewhere.
- Indexed forums which showed up on tapatalk.com even when this was turned off by forum owners.
And all that aside, a key issue isn't whether Tapatalk users are interacting with your site. That's not disputed. The issue is whether more users are interacting, and if so, is it benefiting the site. Perhaps it does for you, and congratulations if it does. But it's done nothing for any of my sites, other than divert better paying revenue streams. One at a time I've been pulling Tapatalk off of them for this reason. The negative impact? None.
I said "it's just tagging in the HTML" --- ie the site is letting Google know it can associate a page with Tapatalk. And if the user has Tapatalk installed, the browser can opt to load the page in Tapatalk. If they don't have Tapatalk installed, it will launch in their browser. So, the user has been diverted from the browser version of your website.This correlates with what you said above, so this comment shouldn't have been on the top, it should have been on the bottom. You should've led with the above comment, rather than this one. Because while your pages aren't directly on google via Tapatalk, your content is ASSOCIATED with your site, and your link is associated with it. And no, it doesn't just tell Google the user has Tapatalk installed, it just tells google that the site has Taptalk installed. You got it right, but backwards.
I'll admit it's only supposition, but it's based upon what I've seen from them over the years: I believe sooner or later forum owners, for the most part, will suffer whenever Tapatalk announces something that's supposedly good for them. They continue to build Tapatalk's user base at their own long term expense.