- Sep 25, 2005
I'm not there yet but close. I was lookin at other forum software the other day.
Beta4 is for github (only) version actually, its like the (If I remember well) having x.1.0 as beta x.2.0 as stable. RC1 will be the next release or at least its how its planned when I was in the team.You mean, you're using some unspecified version in the last few months that literally no one knows exactly where it's at, because you still don't make a note of what GitHub release you took, making it harder for everyone to help you debug problems.
Are they still adding features and major changes without testing them? I stopped looking after being so disgusted that they're still redoing things that are improvements, not bug fixes, meaning that actually dragging it over the line will take ever longer. I even gave up trying to keep track of bug fixes, because every bug fix would require subsequent fixes due to lack of testing.
So glad I forked and gave up worrying about upstream, made it so much easier to have a code base I could actually trust.
I am looking at other forums too. I wish I did some research before deciding to go with Smf. I was not aware that developement is going so slow and probably it would be another couple of years before 2.1. reaches the stable version.I'm not there yet but close. I was lookin at other forum software the other day.
To be fair it wasn't super speedy before 2.1 either - 2.0 started development late 2006, hit first RC status in 2009 (after admitting that RC1 really wasn't ready but bowing to community pressure), hit mostly ready to go RC in early 2010 with RC3, but didn't get final release until summer 2011 after two further RCs. Most of the people that really pushed dev along are long since moved on.I was not aware that developement is going so slow
That's based on the number of items tagged RC1 and then completed/not completed, which varies frequently. Compare with https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/issues/4485 and in particular observe how often the list has been edited, indicating a lot of fluctuation about what is and is not RC1.what GitHub said they are 89% complete from and RC release
You misunderstand me. The benevolent dictators call all the shots. If it happens to be in line with what the users want, great, but the important thing is that they call the shots, not the other way around. The ones that try to listen to what the community want too much end up trying to build something for all the users, and nothing ever gets built that satisfies everyone, it just gets to a point where everyone is mildly tolerant of the outcome, if it actually gets to a point of actually being released.I don't mind as you say the "benevolent dictators" making it and controlling the build as long as they are building what the people want, within reason
Note that you're still missing the point I'm making, and I see nothing has really changed in your outlook in the last three years since we had this exact same debate. It's not about 'developers having the last say', it never was (because that only allows for developers reining in the excesses of the wider community, often not even the majority, but the voices of the vocal minority). As far as I'm concerned, developers are the only ones who should have any actual say, because they're the ones building it, and in a normal world, would be led by a person who has a vision on what the project's direction should be taking. This model appears to be working for XenForo and IPS - they're building the features they see as important, albeit guided by the community, but deliberately not trying to appease everyone all at the same time.how much work they want to put into it how much time is going to be spent not only on implementing features and security but keeping all that updated. They should have the last say for sure. I completely agree.
StoryBB is an SMF fork with a lot of very niche, specialised features making it totally unsuitable for general forum use, but very suitable for roleplay based forums.I think I have heard of storybb...I think, but Ihave been away from the net for a bit as well so I am a bit outdated.
No, that's actually not the problem of recent times. Of recent times there are people who are building things, but they are building things that pretty much only they want, breaking things in the process and doing insufficient other things in terms of testing.Isn't that the problem that the target isn't moving at all