New US law SESTA/FOSTA ban specific user content. Severe penalties for webmasters

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I think most of the laws that are coming these days on this and that like COPAA kind of makes you feel like move towards communism.
 

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I think most of the laws that are coming these days on this and that like COPAA kind of makes you feel like move towards communism.
Overzealous child protection laws with no regard for the consequences as usual.

This isn't anything new, although very disappointing. It's usually up to the Supreme Court to rectify such things / brings them back into some semblance of sanity, sometimes they do like this (they play a little game where Congress keeps passing laws and the Supreme Court keeps striking it down lol) and sometimes they don't.

Good luck determining a fictional cartoon character is under 18 from a drawing that no two juries can guess the age of. It seems like the usual mechanism failed very badly in this particular case, perhaps due to the chaotic politics these days distracting people from these side issues.

One possible repercussion of this ill-conceived law may be Reddit's little crusade on anything anime related as they consider it "sexualising minors" or so I hear from people who have been around that area. I'm not entirely surprised, but it is crazy how far sites go in order to hide from possible liability.

Edit: The Supreme Court may act actually, but the real question is when. In the case of the supposedly overbroad child pornography laws, it took seven years for them to act in the first case and five in the second. That is a very long time in internet time.
 
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Democratic congressman calls for study of effects of sex-trafficking law

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...s-for-study-of-effects-of-sex-trafficking-law

"“The law was supposed to prevent online sex trafficking, but instead criminalized online sex work and suppressed free speech,” Khanna tweeted, saying his proposal would commission a National Institutes of Health study on its effects."
Two words. Political theater.

The purpose of theater is to occasionally pass (or usually propose, they don't usually get this far) laws that make it look like they're actually doing something about something. It isn't so much intended to actually reduce sex trafficking. It's a bipartisan bill as no one wants to appear "soft on crime" and they all want to get re-elected.

It isn't as if they weren't told upfront this was going to happen, but big-headed politicians never listen when there is a big shiny they can vote on. Unfortunately, a good portion of Congress is still refusing to move, so they have to conduct a study in an attempt to sway them.

It is much like the impeachment proceedings which I assume everyone can already guess will never get through the Senate. That is also theater.

This is one of many reasons I don't host sites in the U.S. It isn't the Fosta so much, the places I do host have more restrictive laws, but they're far less susceptible to mass panics and they're fundamentally stable. You don't have new laws helicoptoring in due to some scandal and completely changing the playing field overnight.
 
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One thing that looks promising is the rise of Deep Machine Learning AIs that can do things like identify hate content, nudity, and other stuff you might want to block want on your website. There's some great demos with APIs I found here: https://deepai.org/apis
 

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One thing that looks promising is the rise of Deep Machine Learning AIs that can do things like identify hate content, nudity, and other stuff you might want to block want on your website. There's some great demos with APIs I found here: https://deepai.org/apis
https://theadminzone.com/threads/french-upload-filter-law.152196/post-1148450 I made a relevant response there which I won't repeat here.

For things like hate content, I would be very wary of false positives, especially false positives inside private messages, as that might require moderators being dragged into fairly private contexts far more frequently than is necessary. It would actually be easier to simply encrypt private messages than to fool around with that.

For public posts, it may be helpful, if you can confirm that it doesn't interfere too much in normal operations, but only to help flag content for moderator review and for a qualified moderator to make the determination. If a law ends up requiring filters, you will perhaps want to flag violations to moderators and hide the post until the ycan review it.
 

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The NSFW detection API can block porn at upload. The only way for you to do that with human mods is a moderation queue, which is not instant. Otherwise you end up with porn publicly displayed until someone flags it. If you got a site that allows under 18s that isn't acceptable.
 

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Lawsuits are being launched now, I'm curious to see how these go.

It appears that you have to be very careful with who you do business with, as if you provide a service or a product to a site that is connected to sex trafficking, then someone might turn around and sue you for facilitating it. This will either be tossed out (most likely), lead to great paranoia which goes beyond what it should or people will have to switch to new models which are less legally culpable.
 
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