- Jul 10, 2009
then set all mybb plugins to free.. i suggest
The first sentence I quoted is:
That is generalising an opinion to make it sound more factual.
Mythotical, what "stats" at you looking at?
That being said, Ryan, there is no reason to be as hostile as you have been in this discussion. Clearly a decent number of users take issue with your allowing commercial plugins -- no amount of arguing (especially with your apparent lack of tact) is going to convince them otherwise. It is of course within the right of MyBB to alter their license and openly embrace commercial plugins. It is, however, not within your right (and frankly extremely bad from an image standpoint), for you to stand with so much hostility when individuals question your motives. Keep in mind that you were the one who chose to enter this discussion, and also remember that your behaviour directly represents your product. When your argument is reduced to the pedantics and hostility, there is no positive way out.
Would you please quit with the spinning. Grow up and accept some responsibility for a change. And you wonder why i bring up your age.
If you are asking then obviously there is no use in stating it as you will just go against anything your shown. But my intentions behind the post were to make a point which wasn't taken obviously so after this I'm backing out of this thread.
A large part of public relations (and, on a more personal note, maturity) is not only knowing what to say, but when nothing should be said. It is quite obvious that some people are firmly against your decisions. As I noted previously, you aren't going to convince them otherwise, nor will they convince you of anything. It's a fruitless battle that you're never going to win.Please show me where I have been hostile or tactless, and not just trying to represent the ideals of the MyBB Group, so I can learn from my mistakes?
Would you rather the MyBB Group not participate in or clarify any issues that arise? Especially after they are being brought up for the 6 or 7th time? You can see how that wear and tears on us staff members, and if you think you have a better way, then please enlighten me.
A large part of public relations (and, on a more personal note, maturity) is not only knowing what to say, but when nothing should be said. It is quite obvious that some people are firmly against your decisions. As I noted previously, you aren't going to convince them otherwise, nor will they convince you of anything. It's a fruitless battle that you're never going to win.
motokochan said:I could say the same for you. The license SMF is under prohibits redistribution of SMF itself. It says nothing on modification packages that you must pay for. There are no restrictions on selling your own work. In fact, we do allow paid services and modifications, and there are a few out there, actually.
Are you sure? If so, then SMF's license is a bit confusing. It specifically states "This Package, Modified Packages, and derivative works may not be sold or released under any paid license."
The way the FSF defines derivative works would include modifications and plugins as far as I understand it.
1. This Package is defined as all of the files within any archive file or any group of files released in conjunction by Simple Machines, Simple Machines LLC, or a derived or modified work based on such files.
2. A Modification, or a Mod, is defined as instructions, to be performed manually or in an automated manner, that alter any part of this Package.
3. A Modified Package is defined as this Package or a derivative of it with one or more Modification applied to it.
4. Distribution is defined as allowing one or more other people to in any way download or receive a copy of this Package, a Modified Package, or a derivative of this Package.
5. The Software is defined as an installed copy of this Package, a Modified Package, or a derivative of this Package.
Hahahaha, you just proved my point. I rest my case. Enjoy your time here.
And how many times is HarryWx going to bring up this discussion if we don't respond, and in the end start creating threads that say the MyBB Group doesn't care about it's users opinions and create an even worse rep. for us? We loose either way when it comes to Harry.
Correction.. You all dont seem to care where THIS ISSUE is concerned.
I never said this about anything else. And sorry you dont because you have not even given the otherside of the issue any thought but instead have done nothing but challenge those who dissagree with the paid plugins. And PLEASE STOP with the i am the only one who is against them too. Need i link every thread where a good number of others has expressed the same dislike for them?
Again take some responsibility for your own actions.
Yeah i take issue when someone who is young enough to be my son starts telling me how the world works or tries to pull some power trip over on me which you do alot.
Main thing is for you to stop talking down to people. Yeah i do it to but usually after i am provoked which yeah you provoked it with your first response to this thread.