Looks like some people are trying to be overnight millionaires selling Xenforo 2 mods!

cheat_master30

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Honestly, I'm a tad split here. On the one hand, I definitely feel a lot of people feel they're owed free mods, or owed support for the foreseeable future for $5 despite it being something the devs do as a passion project rather than a full time business. That's annoying, and may definitely drive away a good few modders as a result.

But at the same time... I also kind of miss communities where people contribute entirely for the love of the topic rather than for a business reason. vBulletin.org did really well on that note, since all mods had to be both free and feature rich enough to be worth it, and WordPress.org does well for similar reasons (mods have to be free, substantial and licensed under the GPL). I miss that with forum scripts and what not, and kind of feel disappointed how commercialised mods and add ons have become in general. It's why I chose vBulletin and XenForo rather than IPB, and why I'm such a fan of the video game modding and ROM hacking communities.

So yeah, I'm conflicted there. Don't like the entitled attitudes, but I also don't like how modding (in a lot of fields) seems to have become more and more of a commercial venture recently either.
 

Pete

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The entitled attitudes have certainly curtailed my desire to make addons for forums, and I made some quite substantial contributions in my own way.

When you get people threatening to hack your site if you don't make an addon for them... that's some line crossing right there.
 

LeadCrow

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People are free to offer money to get addons produced for their niche uses. Makes sense if its functionalty important enough for them to have.
As for the bother or cost of support, perhaps modders could simply mark their releases as unsupported except for users paying for the privilege (as opposed to 'unmaintained', which suggest addons are abandoned and no longer receiving updates). Users helping each others should suffice for free addons.

you get people threatening to hack your site if you don't make an addon for them...
If it's a XF customer acting out of line on the official site, you could report receiving threats through the company's site (TOS violation or worse). And if they're not running properly licenced installs, you neednt interact with them at all.
 

Pete

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If it's a XF customer acting out of line on the official site
This was on SMF, a few years ago.

People are free to offer money to get addons produced for their niche uses.
Only this morning someone on SMF there was a thread where I was told, to my face, that I was lying about people wanting to be paid for mods.
 

Xon

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Only this morning someone on SMF there was a thread where I was told, to my face, that I was lying about people wanting to be paid for mods.
I've definitely had some people basically get offended when I quote them my rates for developing XF add-ons. Where as other people realize it will cost money.
 

we_are_borg

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I've definitely had some people basically get offended when I quote them my rates for developing XF add-ons. Where as other people realize it will cost money.
Some people think that developers can work for free all the time, they have no idea how long it takes to weite something from scratch then deal with people that you can alter when ever they like. Plus how they explain stuff that it takes more time. You’re social group add-on how much time was involved to write that?
 

Fillip H.

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I mean to be fair it is the same kinda thing that AndyB does; pay X amount and get access to all mods that fall under a certain category. $5 a year for a few HTML/CSS mods (no JS is even used to do this) isn't the absolute worst thing in the world.

Although that being said, I think pretty much every developer has given away more involved work than that for free, so I can't say I agree with the notion of even having a subscription tier that low.
 

Steve

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I think pretty much every developer has given away more involved work than that for free
Yea like completely free styles that come with free support :)

I appreciate the amount of people submitting things to the RM but some of it just makes the whole system look like a money grab. I have a few things to release (as free) that we use in our own style framework. For me the feeling you get when users use things you've created is sometimes priceless, also the publicity of releasing nice free mods/template edits or whatever helps with premium items you may post later.
 

LenKaiser

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One of the reasons I have not switched from vBulletin to XenForo is because of the prices of some of these mods that I would surely want for my site. I have a legal XenForo license but just do not use it because in the end to get the functionality I want it would cost a small fortune. :(
 

Banxix

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I was checking for a while, most of add-ons have below 1k downloads so it's not a potential market. I suppose paid add-ons downloads number should be lower, do not understand reason they hide the downloads number.
 

Pete

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do not understand reason they hide the downloads number
Because the paid downloads aren't hosted on XF's servers and therefore they have no way of tracking the downloads?
 

pierce

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Resources for sale usually lead to external links, so there is no counter.
 

Bionic Rooster

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Hahaha we got a new contender for this thread now:
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/post-areas.6140/ - seems like a good mod right and decent price
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/post-areas-pro-performance.6141/ - PAY TWICE AS MUCH FOR AN ADDON TO THE ADDON IN ORDER TO UNLOCK PRO PERFORMANCE!!!

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Good catch, I totally missed that maneuver, thanks LOL :tup:
Its real easy if you dont want to pay you don’t use it.
I agree but it's nice there is a watch dog out there keeping an eye of things. :tup:
 
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