Hard drive dead

Bigguy

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Ya know what I hate. (It's my own fault) I hate it when you use a single drive for years without backing up a single byte on that drive and then you lose the drive. It happened without warning and real quick. One minute all was good the next, it was makin noise and whirring and crap. I lost pretty much everything.

Went out and bought a new drive today. I bought a 3 tb seagate barracuda. The last drive I had was 1 tb and it sucked when I lost that one. This one is definitely gettin backed up. What I really hate is losin all those damn passwords. I shoulda wrote them down. :(
 

Tracy Perry

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What I really hate is losin all those damn passwords. I shoulda wrote them down.
I personally use mSecure for this (along with other things). It allows replication of the information across multiple devices. I have it on my iPhone, my Mac and my Microsoft Book.

I ALWAYS make an image of any Windows machine once I get it set up the way I want it and then frequently (on another external drive) do regular backups. The Mac uses it's TimeMachine to back up to an external HD (which I switch out once a year to a new external drive).
 

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Well, I also now have an external hard drive plugged into usb. So things will be backed up now I will promise you that. Not goin through this again. Some passwords I know and other I have changed to many times to remember. Firefox did all the rememberin for me, lol
 

Anton Chigurh

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Ya know what I hate. (It's my own fault) I hate it when you use a single drive for years without backing up a single byte on that drive and then you lose the drive. It happened without warning and real quick. One minute all was good the next, it was makin noise and whirring and crap. I lost pretty much everything.

Went out and bought a new drive today. I bought a 3 tb seagate barracuda. The last drive I had was 1 tb and it sucked when I lost that one. This one is definitely gettin backed up. What I really hate is losin all those damn passwords. I shoulda wrote them down. :(
You didn't have to lose anything. Any half decent computer shop could have salvaged the entire image off that dead HD.

But.... You should have gone solid state for your new drive. I did three years ago and never looked back.
 

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Stick a USB in your router and put important files there, super easy network drive.
 

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I still have the drive and I think I can get some stuff off it...I think. I do want to grab up a SSD for sure. For now though I will have to stick with what I have.
 

Tracy Perry

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Immediate bootup, no heat, no noise.... No 'hunting.' Everything faster, happens NOW.
Yep...but they fail like all drives do. I've got 3 sitting here on a shelf that decided to bite the dust suddenly. One was 1 year old (Dell replaced and didn't want the old one back), 1 was slightly more than 2 years old and the third around 3 1/2 years old.

The biggest downfall to them is if you want LARGE amounts of storage from them (in a singular drive format, not an internal/external RAID /NAS setup)... be prepared to open your wallet to release LARGE amounts of cash.

The best practice is to have your boot/OS disk (along with the programs) loaded on an SSD... your data resides just fine typically (for most home users) on a SATA drive.
 

Bigguy

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I have that program on disk, thanks. I never thought about it til you mentioned it. Maybe there is hope. :)
 

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I have all my hard drives in raid 1 so if one fails you can recover it and rebuild the raid to a new drive. This has helped me multiple times over the years.
Backups help for all critical files make sure you have keep them in multiple areas not in the same location as well.
 

Anton Chigurh

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Yep...but they fail like all drives do. I've got 3 sitting here on a shelf that decided to bite the dust suddenly. One was 1 year old (Dell replaced and didn't want the old one back), 1 was slightly more than 2 years old and the third around 3 1/2 years old.
My goodness, that's really bad luck you're having with those. I haven't had one fail yet, many years running them.
The biggest downfall to them is if you want LARGE amounts of storage from them (in a singular drive format, not an internal/external RAID /NAS setup)... be prepared to open your wallet to release LARGE amounts of cash.
The price point on them is trending wayyyyy down and I anticipate it continuing to do so.

Would be a bit surprised if the old-type mechanical platter hard disk drives are even made anymore, in 10 years or so.
 

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I've never had an SSD failure (I have about 15-20 of all sizes) but I have had one go a little weird on me. I could read to it and write to it but I couldn't bulk copy the files from it. It start reading off at full tilt but got progressively slower until it was taking many minutes to read a single file.
 

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I've never had an SSD failure (I have about 15-20 of all sizes) but I have had one go a little weird on me. I could read to it and write to it but I couldn't bulk copy the files from it. It start reading off at full tilt but got progressively slower until it was taking many minutes to read a single file.
Yeah... I can't imagine a SSD failing. Power failures and spikes might hurt 'em, but haven't seen it personally.
 

Tracy Perry

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Yeah... I can't imagine a SSD failing. Power failures and spikes might hurt 'em, but haven't seen it personally.
One fails to read reliably, one just totally fails to power up and the other (for some strange reason) will allow small transfers of data but if you try to do a mass copy you end up with an error. Of course, these are also coming from computers that work around some medical equipment (X-Ray, etc).
One was a Samsung label, one was a Dell label (think it is also going to end up being a Samsung), and the other was a Sandisk. Replaced each of those drives with SATA 7200rpm's and haven't had any further failures.

Don't get me wrong.. they are really nice and have a definite place... but platter still has it's place also. Price still has a BIG factor in what to purchase for many people. Get the right tool for the job.

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For simple data storage typically there is no need to spend over 3 times what you need to.

The added benefit of the platter drives... they make a really neat looking tech clock (after they do die) for those that are also somewhat artistic. :p

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Now, you want insanely fast... grab you a couple of these with your system tailored around it.

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Matthew S

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When I was a comms tech I had seen a few SSDs die. They were used as OS and voicemail storage in PBXs. They came from a variety of brands. I suspect the issue was prolonged exposure to a hot environment. Just bought an Intel branded M.2 SSD for my new machine. Hopefully it's a good one!
 

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Price still has a BIG factor in what to purchase for many people. Get the right tool for the job.
You pay a huge premium for that "Samsung" name on these SSDs. It's really not a valid comparison shop.

But as I said, the price point is dropping rapidly and will continue to do so, even on the premium brand-names.
I suspect the issue was prolonged exposure to a hot environment.
Heat is the enemy of all semiconductors.
 

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and the other (for some strange reason) will allow small transfers of data but if you try to do a mass copy you end up with an error.
That's pretty much what happened to one of mine. I wiped/formatted it and it appears to be usable again but I don't feel inclined to use it for anything important.
 
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