Forum Software with better spam protection

Jason5

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I am currently using MyBB and i see lot of spammers signing up. Any forum software you used felt better in terms of handling spam? I am currently using re-captcha and Q&A for spam measures.

I understand that there is no 100% protection from spam. But love to know which felt better.
 

we_are_borg

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XF and IPS handle spam well, before i was running the show we used MyBB and it was crap 100 posts with spam was done in hour or so. With IPS they aren't even able to post the system catches most. If not one button and there gone before they post.
 

Jason5

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Great, i seen few vBulletin forums too and the sign up rate of spammers is less. Any vBulletin users can confirm it.

DanielF That is great, so another 10$ for the plugin hmm. And funny it has India in the list..i am from India
 

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I've always found Q&A to be the most effective deterrent when it comes to spam but it clearly doesn't work for everyone, I just don't fully understand why. There are obviously many questions that even bots can answer but surely it's possible to create a Q&A that works 99% of the time?
 

Jason5

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Google claims the recaptcha can help us fight spams but it is less effective in forums right?
 

zappaDPJ

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Great, i seen few vBulletin forums too and the sign up rate of spammers is less. Any vBulletin users can confirm it.
Yes, about 99% effective using a custom field Q&A. However it's currently not a product I'd recommend.

Google claims the recaptcha can help us fight spams but it is less effective in forums right?
In my experience it either works so well only bots can bypass it (but not genuine members) or it doesn't work at all.
 

Jason5

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Moderating user registration will be a good choice for starter but as the forum grow i think it will be a pain.
 

zappaDPJ

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Moderating user registration will be a good choice for starter but as the forum grow i think it will be a pain.
I actually do that on one forum because it's a customer service forum for customers only. As we only get a handful of new registrations a day it's not too much work but we do use a custom system with push notification so we can validate members within seconds.

Speed of response is essential because these days people expect an instance response if they sign up to anything.
 

Jason5

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So the improving Woltlab is in question now. Will the new upgrade manage the spam better?
 

haqzore

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Same old question... Same old answer.


haqzore said:
You do not need an add-on to combat spam.
I can only share my experience, but it spans over a decade of admining multiple sites with near perfect success in combating spam.


Good Q&A captcha is all you need.

Other captchas are garbage. It's not a matter of "if", only "when" the next crop of bots will bypass the latest captcha.
Email validation does nothing for spam avoidance. Bots have been able to click email links for decades.
At their best, neither of these work. At their worst, they inconvenience & deter users.

Trying to be totally honest here... I average 2-3 spam registrations per year, total, across multiple sites running multiple platforms. Maybe less?

I only use Q&A captcha.
I never validate emails.
I use no other captcha and have never once used a "spam add-on".

I really recommend a site-relevant Q&A (NOT something a bot can decipher, like "What is 1 + 1?").

Spam is simply a headache I don't have... And posts like this make me wonder if I'm missing something? Am I just crazy?
 

mysiteguy

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I've been very happy with the spammer lockout abilities of both IPS and XF, both solid. I also setup moderation of posts with links in them for the first 10 posts for the rare spammer who manages to slip through (human spammers!).
 

Vekseid

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For free: SMF or Elkarte, with their respective Stop Forum Spam plugins (Elkarte - StopForumSpam - SMF - Stop Spammer). For smaller forums I can go years without seeing a spammer sign in.

Elliquiy, a Simple Machines forum with over 15 million posts and associated visibility, did not see a single spammer for all of 2017 and has seen eight spammers since.

My largest Elkarte forum has had one spammer in four years.

Paid: Xenforo with Xon's Signup Abuse Detection and Blocking addon.

Default Xenforo is atrocious, I would consider it something below the bare minimum of what modern forum software should do. For the period in which Elliquiy saw 8 spammers, Blue Moon (a forum half its activity) saw 80, with hundreds of false positives. You can regularly see spammers slip through on their own forums.
 

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XenForo has a decent set of spam tools, but I would not want to think about running a XF board without additional addons. The SFS implementation is broken IMHO. There are way too many spammers coming through on a vanilla install. IMO the trick is to have a unique multilayered defense to cover all factors including blacklists/whitelists for a wide range of things, recaptcha, automatic profile analysis, multiple account detection, keyword analysis for posts by new accounts, browser fingerprint analysis, blocking of some countries, etc, etc. Cloudflare can be useful as well.
 

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Yes default implementation of Xenforo needs lot of addons and same is the case with SMF too. There are some rules that can be set on SMF like registration filtering before accepting new member but apart from that both of those need anti spam plugin.
 
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