Don't "upgrade" to https:// if you use Adsense (your revenue drops)

Digitalpoint

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So Google would like you to think - its really not essential for a forum.
It kind of is... users are authenticating. Sending login credentials in plain text over the Internet is a really bad idea regardless of the type of site you are authenticating into.
 

Paul M

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Its not essential at all, forums have survived for 20+ years without it.
We are not talking about critical financial or personal information here.

Nice or useful to have, maybe, but essential ? no.
 

Sal Collaziano

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It may not be essential but it's certainly a good idea considering most people seem to use the Chrome browser these days - and that little green "Secure" makes a big difference in the eyes of the person browsing considering how much "stuff" is going on in the world regarding identity theft and various other account security issues. It doesn't take much to implement.
 

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Surely using PayPal, or similar platform takes even more risk away from the user submitting information?

Would have thought the click through to the website may be exposed as unencrypted, but that’s about it.

That’s a huge assumption on my part by the way, not researched it as SSL hasn’t been the top of my list as I rarely have financial transactions, and I have my doubts it’s going to raise me from page 2 to 1.
 

pierce

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Surely using PayPal, or similar platform takes even more risk away from the user submitting information?

Would have thought the click through to the website may be exposed as unencrypted, but that’s about it.

That’s a huge assumption on my part by the way, not researched it as SSL hasn’t been the top of my list as I rarely have financial transactions, and I have my doubts it’s going to raise me from page 2 to 1.
On Firefox this is shown if you have a password field:
ablog.mozilla.org_security_files_2017_01_Login_with_warning2_252x191.png
 

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I understand that, but is it really a problem if the only personal information held in that profile is an email address?
 

pierce

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I understand that, but is it really a problem if the only personal information held in that profile is an email address?
Well your users may be scared off? Login and registrations will go down.

Having a big "insecure" slapped on your site is also ugly.

I know if all you track is useless info that could be made up and unverified it doesn't need security.

But alas the tech giants have it in for the NSA after Snowden to encrypt every single bit of information transmitted globally.
 

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Yes I can appreciate that. It’s never been complained about or mentioned to me, and I still have a steady rate of new registrations but that doesn’t mean it’s not happening.
 
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Daniel

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My observation => we moved to https a half year ago and since then we got 1/3 more daily visitors( which isn't really an indicator because visitors and members increased all the time since the start) and our adsense income increased by 20% and direct income from subscriptions +additional sells increased by 55%
So, my Observation is that next to the “more content, more people theirs” there is also the theory that https makes people feel better and shows that it’s more secure to register and log in frequently..huch results in more visitors, more content and more income

So meeh, lose the fear about moving over to https:p
 
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Pete

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It's also the fact that people reuse passwords - and if you send the password in plain text over an insecure connection that can be easily observed by a third party... like, say, wifi... it suddenly becomes a practical concern.
 

shibby2

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So are there any downsides (assuming it doesn't hurt ad revenue) to changing to https? Also, what all is involved to do so? How does one change to https?

Thanks
 

CrashPush

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I've just recently switched to an HTTPS and I have not seen any dip at all. In fact my revenue has increased a bit since implementing it.
 

we_are_borg

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The topic start is a few years old https now should not have no impact at all.
 

Paul M

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We switched to SSL in January and it most definitely affected the revenue. Its started to recover again now.
 

shibby2

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I know January 1st 'till about mid April is the absolute worst time for Adsense revenue for all my sites. Sure it wasn't just the time of year?
 

Paul M

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Yes, Im quite sure, its quite easy to see the drop (in a daily display) from the date of upgrade.
 
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