California Consumer Privacy Act 2020: users can claim damages

Wes of StarArmy

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I'm not fully familiar with the act but on first glance this strikes me as potentially problematic. If my personal data is stolen and subsequently sold, what can I do about it?
Exactly. I expect data companies could get their data from shady sources and "launder" it by changing hands from one shell company to the next. Pretty sure this is already happening. It seems like a massive oversight/loophole in the law.
 

TheChiro

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So is this much different than the GDPR? I notice they put things like Alias in there, would forum usernames be considered this then? And do they also have clauses (sorry, I haven't had the time to actually look through another long "legal" bs papers to see) like GDPR where, as a service provider, some of this information is needed to be stored to prevent problematic behavior on our platform(s)?
 

MagicalAzareal

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It will likely end up getting pre-empted by federal law, whatever form that law may take. Google and friends are investing a stupid amount of money into lobbying to weaken these protections.
 

overcast

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Pathetic socialism is entering into the US. I wonder if people soon make AOC president and turn into Venezuela.
 

Alpha1

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I don't see how that makes any sense. AFAIK this has nothing to do with socialism and AOC is way to young to even run. She's not electable. Venezuela doesn't have data protection laws. Did you accidentally post to the wrong thread?
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AFAIK this has nothing to do with socialism
Actually it is. EU started GDPR with same socialist mindset. And no I didn't accidentally posted in wrong thread. But yeah whatever suits you.
 

JQP

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Off topic - You're wasting your typing, Alfa1 . He obviously has no clue what the word means, so just say "Yeah, MAGA, dude" and move on.

On topic - I wasn't concerned about this before but now I am. And the law takes effect in three weeks. My site is based in California and all but a few of our members are from here. And we have a few vindictive former members. The law won't affect the site itself but it will affect the ads we show, and taking away personalization would probably have a pretty big effect on the rates they pay. Which would have a big effect on my opinion of whether or not keeping the site going is worth the trouble.

I'm wondering if a simple GDPR-style "by clicking here, you agree to the site's TOS" with a notice on that page about third-party cookies might suffice.

Aside - Anyone else old enough to remember when we all thought that only getting ads for things we cared about would be a good thing? lol
 

MagicalAzareal

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Aside - Anyone else old enough to remember when we all thought that only getting ads for things we cared about would be a good thing? lol
I mostly found ads to be a nuisance and didn't particularly care about that.
Discovering they were stalking me everywhere was icing on the cake.
 

Alpha1

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I'm wondering if a simple GDPR-style "by clicking here, you agree to the site's TOS" with a notice on that page about third-party cookies might suffice.
It does seem to require the same accept cookies popup that lets the user accept types of cookies.
Please read this:
https://www.cookiebot.com/en/ccpa-compliance/

If you use an ad platform then that will have the appropriate information for you. If you just use banner ads that you place yourself, then there should not be an issue.
 

JQP

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Yes, it sounds like a "cookie notice" kind of popup would be enough for most sites and the only real danger would be from a disgruntled former member who might want to file a nuisance law suit against you. The biggest problem would be what to do with the people who'd opt out on your notice. Seems like our site could be turning away a lot of people.

I'm wondering if the law might be challenged as being discriminatory against online businesses, since there's no mention of brick-and-mortars, financial companies or, hell, even government agencies and political parties (yes, even the people who wrote the law) that do the same things with people's information.
 

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Why you're suddenly getting spammed with privacy emails
Does this look familiar? "We've updated our privacy notice to provide additional transparency on our information practices as well as to comply with the CCPA."
This holiday season, inboxes have been filled not only with promotional emails but also dozens of privacy notes.
California's new privacy law -- the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) -- goes into effect January 1, 2020. That's why Postmates, Condé Nast, Hulu, and many more businesses have emailed customers over the past few weeks with new terms of service.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/26/media/california-privacy-law-ccpa/index.html
 

JQP

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Sort of off-topic, but I'm kind of amused by the all-powerful Google's broken - and outdated - tag on this notice.

Nope, still haven't written my site's notice on it. But I'm laughing about the idea that by "clicking here to reject cookies" you're issued a cookie.

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