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Old 12-09-2006, 01:05 PM
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Hi,

I am developing a website which will also include a forum. I have never started a forum before so I have done a bit of reading recently regarding the subject.

However, I am unsure how I should approach the task of creating "staff" for my forums. Like I have mentioned, I have no technical experience in forums or as an admin, so building a group of volunteers quickly would help the forum development by a lot. But my problem is finding these people. One approach I have in mind is just letting the forum sit for a bit and keep a look-out for members that post regularly and in a mature manner. Then ask them to volunteer as a moderator. But finding an admin will be a problem. I do not mind doing some of the admin tasks myself, but I will have difficulties in technical duties as an noobie admin. I am thinking of appointing a co-admin who can keep up with security patches and the technical aspects of the forums and report to me and suggest changes. Then guide me through the process of implementing these changes. This is a safest and best approach IMO. Again, it will be difficult in finding such a person as my forum doesn't relate to technical things.

Also, is it a good idea to PM high-post count members or moderators in my competitors' forums and ask them if they wish to participate or even join as a moderator on my newly built forum?

What approach do you have in finding a reliable technical person that will be willing to help you and your community out. Do you declare it in a new thread with a topic explaining that you are looking for technical help? Would this reflect poorly on my image? Will members be deterred from participating in a forum ran by a noobie?

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Old 12-09-2006, 01:20 PM
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You should only really "employ" moderators who you "know" are seasoned visitors to the forum, mature, trustworthy, and generally nice charactors. People will high post counts will reflect activity, however they don't represent the other factors included in finding good moderators. I personally wouldn't ask anywhere but your forum for assistance as other forum owners and members usually don't take kindly to such requests and are largely labeled as spam and this will tarnish your site's experience.

To approach them, i'd just pick one or two members and ask them if they'd like to volunteer some of their time to help the site's smooth running, I wouldn't, however, appeal for people as this will bring the wrong sorts of people into the community... "power mad freaks" is the term I usually use... I think it gets the message across :P

Perhaps you could get a TAZ mentor to guide you through everything you need - however if there is nobody available there is a possibility I could help you get on your feet.

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Old 12-09-2006, 02:11 PM
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I get a lot of pm's asking if we need help on the site I admin. We always say thank you not at this time, however we will keep you in mind for the future. This gives the other Admins time to watch and learn about this individual to see if he or she will fit with the team, and for us to save face.

Since your site is new, you shouldn't need a lot of help at first. My advice to any admin is to play around with the backend. Ask for support when needed from the program creators, they usually have forums of their own for just this thing. Don't be intimidated by the crazy coding, it truly isn't that difficult to understand and learn, it just takes a little patience and time.

I admin several boards, but I also make it a policy of mine to teach the owners at least the basics about their own boards. They should have basic knowledge of how their board runs, so not to depend to highly on others should anything happen.

I would be happy to teach you the basics, and help get you set up.

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Old 12-10-2006, 11:20 AM
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Thank you Skamper and Callum for your kind replies.

I have been lurking around my competitors' forums and looking at their present members and their posts. It has been very tedious singleling out mature and frequent posters. I know that what I am doing is not that legit, so I guess it might not be a good idea offering them status on my forums afterall.

A better approach IMO is to PM a target group of potential moderators and inform them that my forum exist. If they decide to participate on my forums, then I will keep track of their activities and promote them to Mod when I know he/she is reliable.

The reason why I want help right in the beginning is because I also have the website to handle. I will be participating in the forums of course to get to know my members, however for the small tasks of moderating I wish to hand that to others (although, I will be moderating a bit)

Skamper: You mentioned playing with the back-end of the forums. What do you mean by this? Setting up the template, adding mods, backups? What else should I be doing as the admin?
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Old 12-10-2006, 12:24 PM
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No problem What I was trying to get at is install and get your forum online, and then see who turns up - everything won't go quickly at first and I doubt you'll start off with high traffic. Once you have a couple of regular visitors on your site, i'd then approach them and ask what experience they have and if they could donate a little bit of their time to help you out on the forum.

Additionally, what Skamper meant was learning your way around the admincp of the forum software you are using so you can use it strongly - of course you don't need a crash course in it however learn what you need when you need it. I wouldn't offer out administrative places to "strangers" even if they have posted on other boards sensibly; you have to make sure they are loyal to your site, and don't have an agenda with your "competing" site.

What is your forum about, and what software do you intend using?
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Old 12-10-2006, 04:20 PM
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I just installed the forum today. It was easy for me even with no previous forum/admin experience, but of course I used Fantastico . It is indeed fantastico! I am using SMF and will be integrating it with Joomla by using the Joomla-SMF bridge. So when a user registers on the website they also will be automatically registered for the forums.

My website is about providing links to full-length videos so that my users can watch whatever. The users are directly involved in submitting new links or flagging links that should be removed (broken links). The forum is just there to provide space for the community I wish to create.

I have been working on the forum for the entire morning and have gotten the hang of it. I think I've been to everywhere on my admincp. What I need to do now is to install some MODS and themes to customize the website and allow it to be more usable for the users.

Yeah - I am afraid that if I ask some posters on my competitors' forums to become a mod they might have hidden agendas. I guess the PM idea is out of the question.
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Old 12-10-2006, 04:30 PM
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Well done Is this a YouTube sort of site, or is it videos of TV/other "specialised" media?
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Old 12-10-2006, 11:10 PM
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no no - there's no actual uploading of videos. That would be infringing on copyright

The website only links to them. It may sound stupid at first, but there is a niche that searches for full-length videos on sites like youtube. However, these websites that actually host these videos make it very difficult for these people to find what they are looking for.

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Old 12-10-2006, 11:19 PM
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I just installed the forum today. It was easy for me even with no previous forum/admin experience, but of course I used Fantastico . It is indeed fantastico! I am using SMF and will be integrating it with Joomla by using the Joomla-SMF bridge. So when a user registers on the website they also will be automatically registered for the forums.

My website is about providing links to full-length videos so that my users can watch whatever. The users are directly involved in submitting new links or flagging links that should be removed (broken links). The forum is just there to provide space for the community I wish to create.

I have been working on the forum for the entire morning and have gotten the hang of it. I think I've been to everywhere on my admincp. What I need to do now is to install some MODS and themes to customize the website and allow it to be more usable for the users.

Yeah - I am afraid that if I ask some posters on my competitors' forums to become a mod they might have hidden agendas. I guess the PM idea is out of the question.
Seems like a cool idea. I tried a Joomla-PHP bridge this weekend and could not get to look the way I liked. Good luck.
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Old 12-11-2006, 07:20 AM
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No-one seems to have mentioned this before, but do not send PMs to members of competing sites asking if they want to become mods or even members. This would be poaching and the owners of the other sites would be well within their rights to ban you. If someone tried it on my forum I'd not have a second thought about banning them. You also mention that mods recruited that way might well have hidden agendas, and that is quite possible.

Most communities that are just starting out won't require much moderation at first. You should be able to carry out such work yourself quite easily. When your membership reaches the hundreds you should perhaps start thinking about appointing one or two moderators. There are several threads on this subject here in TAZ.
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Old 12-11-2006, 08:13 AM
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hi quicksiver
I'm looking for a board to join on whiles ours is out of action at the moment I'm just looking to hang out somewhere and post give us the addy of this board of yours and i'll check it out
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Old 12-11-2006, 09:25 PM
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No-one seems to have mentioned this before, but do not send PMs to members of competing sites asking if they want to become mods or even members. This would be poaching and the owners of the other sites would be well within their rights to ban you. If someone tried it on my forum I'd not have a second thought about banning them. You also mention that mods recruited that way might well have hidden agendas, and that is quite possible.

Most communities that are just starting out won't require much moderation at first. You should be able to carry out such work yourself quite easily. When your membership reaches the hundreds you should perhaps start thinking about appointing one or two moderators. There are several threads on this subject here in TAZ.

You're absolutely right and I agree with you now after thinking about it. I really wouldn't like someone doing that on my forums. Thanks arnie

Hi danr6. The forum is still being developed so I wish for it not to be released to anybody before I understand more of the security and the overall forum. Sorry to sound so paranoid.
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Old 12-12-2006, 03:30 PM
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hi quicksiver
I'm looking for a board to join on whiles ours is out of action at the moment I'm just looking to hang out somewhere and post give us the addy of this board of yours and i'll check it out
I have a board that you can join, here's the link: http://wwwlylytha.smfforfree.com/index.php
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:31 AM
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I think you'll probably be ok for a while without any other staff. I had never had a forum before but i managed ok with mine, just ask people if you get stuck with anything.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:57 PM
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Okay - Thanks all!
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